Saturday, February 20, 2010

Siblings

Please check this to understand the acronyms used in this blog post.

In D-1, H3 represents younger co-borns and H11 represents elder co-borns. The karaka for siblings is Ma. Although some people believe that Sa is the karaka for elder siblings, Dr. B V Raman is of the opinion that there is no evidence in scriptures to support that statement. [ACOA] Some believe that Ju and Sa - together are the karakas for elder siblings. [JR]

There are many ways of finding the number of siblings from a chart. I know a couple of them.

1. Find out the number of signs gained by Ma or L3, whoever is stronger, in D-9. This represents the number of siblings the person has. Discount all the signs gained, in which there are malefic planets since they would result in loss of a sibling. [HPA]
2. Check D-3. If the As is in odd sign, then H3,H5,H7.. represent younger siblings and H11,H9,H7 etc represent the elder siblings. If the As is in even sign, then H11,H9,H7 represent younger siblings and H3,H5,H7 represent elder siblings. After covering all odd/even signs, we shift from odd to even signs (or vice-versa) instead of returning to the sign where we started. [VAAIA]

In my experience (2) worked well for most of the horoscopes. Before applying these rules, we must also look for other cues from the horoscope which hint more information about siblings.
  • D-1: Ju in H11 happens for the eldest born. This, of course, may not be true if As falls in Aq and Ta. That is because, L11 is Ju for them. E.g. Horoscope details: As: Aq, Ju: Sg. The native had an elder brother.
  • D-1: L1 in H11 indicates eldest born. Note that L1 *alone* must be in H11 to apply this principle. E.g. Horoscope details: As: Sc, Ma,Ve,Me:Vi. The native had an elder sister (understandably since L11 is also in H11 and Ve,Me are both female).
  • D-1: For a son who is destined to do the final rituals of one of/both his parents, Mo will be in any one of the following houses: {1,2,6,8,10}. Since final rituals are performed by eldest son, it's expected that the eldest born will have Mo in one of the above-mentioned houses. I've seen exceptions for this rule as well. So, please don't scare NRI's by telling them that they won't be in India when it's critical for their parents.
  • D-1: L3 in H11 indicates that the native is the last born for his parents. L11 in H3 also indicates that the native is the first born for his parents. A strong Sa in H3 or H11 from As, AL or KR may indicate the same. Ke positioned in H3 or H11 from As indicates no brothers. If there is benefic aspect, then there may be sisters.
  • D-1: If L3 is associated with a benefic planet and is placed in a good house or very strong, then there may be younger brothers. Similarly, L11 for elder brothers.
  • D-1/D-3: To predict the gender of siblings, one must take into account: the gender of the planet owning the sign, the planet's strength and position relative to the sign, the gender of the sign, gender of planets in the sign and their strength etc.
Please check the horoscopes you have, for the validity of the above principles. I will try and post some examples when possible.

Interesting example:

I know of two brothers. The younger of them had: As: Sg, Ve,Mo: Vi. The elder one had: As: Li, Ve: Vi. Note that H11 in the younger brother's horoscope is the same as the As in elder brother! And Ve is debilitated in both the horoscopes (not sure about cancellation). The elder brother didn't have Mo in {1,2,6,8,10} where as the younger brother has.

From the younger brother's horoscope, one can see that L11 is debilitated and conjunct with L8 (Moon). This indicates troubles for his elder siblings. In the horoscope of the elder brother, one can see that L1 and L8 are debilitated marking a question on his longevity. Unfortunately, the elder brother died at 23, before his father. So, the elder brother could not perform the final rituals for his father. Note that Mo is positioned in H10 for younger brother thus enabling him to perform the final rituals of his father (and mother).

8 comments:

  1. anna...super.....ee blog telugulo maintain cheyochu kada.....I think people will be comfortable with telugu in this subject

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  2. As such very few people learn astrology. If I maintain the blog in Telugu, I will be further reducing the reach of the blog by keeping language as a barrier.

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  3. Plz re-check 2nd point again. I think you've mentioned the same thing for odd and even Asc

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  4. Thanks Neeraj, I corrected the 2nd point.

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  5. thanks for sharing the knowledge.....

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  6. Nice post! Thankyou, A research is in itself a gem!

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  7. well written and interesting aspects in sibiling astrology .Wish you could more articles on sibiling problems.

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  8. If Lord of 11 in 3rd debilitated ( Venus in virgo) for cancer ascendant( even sign) does it always indicate death of younger sibling?

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